Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
2201
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Posted - 2015.09.14 22:54:32 -
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Mr Rive wrote:Aryth wrote:The problem is the first punishment didn't work. The recent warning didn't work. The only thing that will work is a huge hammer to the face. I don't support actually banning anyone from the game. Banning from AT is a perfectly reasonable response. Not rewarding the behavior by seizing the ships is also perfectly reasonable.
Yes, everyone knew it was going on. The problem with getting caught is then the pain comes. If this was the first time this happened it might be easier to argue for no punishment. Unfortunately, that isn't the case. banning hasnt and never will work for the tournament. People just use alts and there's no way to prove they are. Besides, I dont think they deserve to get banned. They played a game with CCP and they lost. they deserve some recognition for almost getting away with it. They were very clever about it.
Why give them recognition for cheating? Just ban them. Risk-Reward is what it's all about right? They took a huge risk that could pay off but it failed so they should lose it all. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
2202
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Posted - 2015.09.15 13:59:56 -
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Mr Rive wrote:Querns wrote:Mr Rive wrote:Querns wrote:Mr Rive wrote:
Yeah it is, but then some of us care about the tournament too, and its not worth the frustration seeing this bullshit play out during the tournament, for the chance for a bit of hydra evasion trolling afterwards.
I agree -- the people involved should be exempt from the rules because of who they are. Hold the phone. No one is saying they should be exempt. You know the game they were playing almost as well as I do, youre obviously not stupid, throwing this in my face isnt going to get a rise from me. Again, they deserve to be punished, but throwing the book at them will do nothing but invonvenience them. Banning them just means they have to train a few alts for a year. My suggestion of splitting the prizes up more evenly means we aren't getting an advantage, and they lose some of theirs. It also pulls more teams in to the AT ship pool 'family'. Of course everyone is pissed off about this. Understandably. I and others have been sure about it for at least a year. Maybe we're coming at this from a more clear headed angle? I think you're underestimating the ability for CCP to enforce a ban. While it wouldn't be perfect, blacklisting all their accounts, their machine IDs, and the /24 of their IP would probably work fairly well. To subvert that, they'd have to start completely clean, new accounts, buy some or all of a new computer, and, depending on where they live, move. thats not been done in the past though. If they did it would work. I still dont think a lot of them would care, most of their best pilots have more or less burned out now anyway. Still, this doesnt actually fix anything. It doesnt change the fact that someone could still communicate with a practise partner, share all setups, and get to the finals. this is the real problem.
Would people be willing to risk losing their account and assets over it once a precedent is set that cheating in the AT will get you banned? If you set an example, you might actually make some people think twice before they work on such scheme. |